Sullivan & Cromwell LLP vs. Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP
Category by category. Sources: Vault 2027, Am Law 200 FY2025, and reported Chambers records from the years shown.
Who Wins Each Category
Each row stands on its own. There is no overall winner; weigh what matters to you.
| Category | Sullivan & Cromwell | Simpson Thacher & Bartlett |
|---|---|---|
| Higher pay wins | $235,000+ (wins this category) | $225,000 |
| Higher wins | $7.57M | $8.57M (wins this category) |
| Lower rank wins | #5 (wins this category) | #10 |
| Lower rank wins | #25 | #10 (wins this category) |
| Higher wins | $2.28B | $3.55B (wins this category) |
| More lawyers wins | 1,000 | 2,000 (wins this category) |
| OfficesMore offices wins | 11 | 16 (wins this category) |
| Nationwide, Chambers USA 2026More Band 1 tables wins | 12 tables | 13 tables (wins this category) |
| 2L OpensSummer 2028Earlier date winsTie | Opened Nov 1, 2026 | Opened Nov 1, 2026 |
| 1L OpensEarlier date wins | No 1L Program | Open nowSummer 2027: 1L Summer Associate |
Sources: Vault 2027 and Am Law 200 FY2025 rankings, Chambers USA 2026, first-year pay as each firm or the market reports it, and program dates from firm career pages on the Job Board. Missing data reads Not Reported and never counts as a loss.
Full Comparison
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLP
Est. 1879
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP
Est. 1884
Est. 1879
Sullivan & Cromwell LLP is a 1,000-plus-attorney firm, Vault #5 / Am Law #25. Jurisdiction-specific Chambers rankings include Band 1 in Corporate Crime & Investigations, Corporate/M&A, and Corporate/M&A: Takeover Defense. Operates from 11 offices worldwide.
Est. 1884
Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP is a 2,000-plus-attorney global firm, Vault #10 / Am Law #10. Jurisdiction-specific Chambers rankings include Band 1 in Asset Management M&A, Banking & Finance, and Capital Markets: Debt & Equity. Operates from 16 offices worldwide.
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLP#5
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP#10
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLP#25
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP#10
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLP21 records
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP22 records
- #5
- #25
- 21 records
- Vault rank
- #10
- Am Law rank
- #10
- Reported Chambers Band 1 records
- 22 records
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLP$235,000+
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP$225,000
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLP$7.57M
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP$8.57M
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLP$2.28B
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP$3.55B
Revenue per lawyer
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLP$2.51M
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP$2.02M
- $235,000+
- $7.57M
- $2.28B
- Revenue per lawyer
- $2.51M
- First-Year Comp
- $225,000
- Profits Per Partner
- $8.57M
- Firm revenue
- $3.55B
- Revenue per lawyer
- $2.02M
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLPNot Reported
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPNot Reported
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLPNot Reported
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPNot Reported
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLP2.4:1
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP3:1
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLP~1,000
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP~2,000
Offices
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLP11
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP16
- Not Reported
- Not Reported
- 2.4:1
- ~1,000
- Offices
- 11
- Billable target
- Not Reported
- Partnership track
- Not Reported
- US associates per partner
- 3:1
- Firm size (rounded to 50)
- ~2,000
- Offices
- 16
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLP100%
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP100%
Class size
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLP216 (2026)
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLP265 (year not confirmed)
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLPCentralized staffing
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPCentralized staffing
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLPNo
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPNo
- 100%
- Class size
- 216 (2026)
- Centralized staffing
- No
- Offer rate
- 100%
- Class size
- 265 (year not confirmed)
- How associates get work
- Centralized staffing
- Specific practice area
- No
1L program
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLPNo 1L summer program
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPNo 1L summer program
1L applications open
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLPNot Reported
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPOpen now
2L applications open
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLPOpened Nov 1
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPOpened Nov 1
2L deadline
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLPMar 5, 2027
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPNot announced
- 1L program
- No 1L summer program
- 1L applications open
- Not Reported
- 2L applications open
- Opened Nov 1
- 2L deadline
- Mar 5, 2027
- 1L program
- No 1L summer program
- 1L applications open
- Open now
- 2L applications open
- Opened Nov 1
- 2L deadline
- Not announced
Green marks the stronger for the same practice, market and year. Shared results are listed once. split some top tables.
Shared rankings
Rank differences
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLPBand 4
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 1
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLPBand 3
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 1
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLPBand 2
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 1
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLPBand 4
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 1
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLPBand 3
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 1
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLPBand 2
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 1
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLPBand 1 · Elite
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 3 · Elite
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLPBand 1
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 5
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLPBand 1
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 2
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLPBand 1 · Elite
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 2 · Elite
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLPBand 1 · Elite
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 2 · Elite
- Sullivan & Cromwell LLPBand 3
- Simpson Thacher & Bartlett LLPBand 1
Firm-only and additional rankings remain available on each firm profile so missing coverage is not mistaken for a head-to-head loss.
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Data sources: Vault 2027, Am Law 200 FY2025, and reported Chambers records from the years shown. Chambers record counts can span years and reporting coverage varies; missing years or markets are not compared. Current Chambers bands were checked against each firm’s Chambers profile on Sep 26, 2026; where Chambers splits a table, every Elite firm ranks above every Highly Regarded firm. Missing values read “Not Reported”.
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